Obama health care plan summary: Ludicrous!

Mathew D. Staver, Founder and Chairman, Dean and Professor of Law, Liberty Counsel Liberty University School of Law reviews HR 3200, which is currently under consideration in the House of Representatives:

Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit the books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!

Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill – THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get

Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill – YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!

Pg 42 of HC Bill – The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your benefits for you. You have no choice!

Pg 50 Section 152 in HC bill – HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise

Pg 58HC Bill – Gov’t will have real-time access to individual’s finances & a National ID Health care card will be issued!

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access to your banks accts for electronic funds transfer.

Pg 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).

Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange to bring priv HC plans under Govt control.

Pg 84 Sec 203 HC bill – Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private Health Care plans in the Exchange

Pg 85 Line 7 HC Bill – Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration your Healthcare!

Pg 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill – Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services.

Example – Translation for illegal aliens.

Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan

Pg 85 Line 7 HC Bill – Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members – Your Health Care WILL be rationed

Pg 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill – Medicaid Eligible Individual will be automat.enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.

Pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue Govt on price fixing. No “judicial review” against Govt Monopoly.

Pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill – Doctors/ #AMA – The Govt will tell YOU what you can make.

Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public opt plan. NO CHOICE

Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.

Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer w/ payroll 400k & above who does not prov. pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll

Pg 150 Lines 9-13 Biz w payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesnt provide public opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.

Pg 170 Lines 1-3 Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay).

Pg 195 Officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans financial and personal records.

Pg 203 Line 14-15 HC – “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax” Yes, it says that. Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected.

Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill – Doctors, it does not matter what specialty you have, you’ll all be paid the same.

Pg 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr’s time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans.

Pg 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries.

Pg 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.

Pg 272 SEC. 1145. Treatment of certain cancer hospitals – Cancer patients – welcome to rationing!

Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals for what Govt deems preventable readmissions. (Incentives for hospital to not treat and release.)

Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission-Govt will penalize you.

Pg 317 L 13-20 PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs. what/how much they can own.

Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand.

pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can you say ACORN?!!

Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 – Govt mandates established of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing.

Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans (Part B), HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Govt plan.

Pg 354 Sec 1177 – Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people!

Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy – Telehealth Advisory Committee. HC by phone/Internet?

Pg 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance [Death] Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life.

Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!

Pg 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Gov’t provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death.

Pg 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program for orders for end of life. The Gov’t has a say in how your life ends.

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An “adv. care planning consult” will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates.

Pg 429 Lines 10-12 “adv. care consultation” may incl an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 – The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life

(NOTE FROM RJ: The above really does give the government the authority to determine who lives and dies, and when. A government bureaucrat really will be making this decision for you and your loved ones.)

Pg 469 – Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?

Pg 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment to a community-based org. Like ACORN?

Pg 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. They will insert Government into your marriage. Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Svcs including defining, creating, rationing those svcs

PG 502 Sec 1181 Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research Established. – Hello Big Brother – Literally.

Pg 503 Lines 13-19 Gov’t will build registries and data networks from YOUR electronic med records.

Pg 503 lines 21-25 Gov’t may secure data directly from any depart or agency of the US including your data.

Pg 504 Lines 6-10 The “Center” will collect data both published & unpublished (that means public & your private info)

PG 506 Lines 19-21 The Center will recommend policies that would allow for public access of data.

PG 518 Lines 21-25 The Commission will have input from HC consumer reps – Can you say unions & ACORN?

PG 524 18-22 Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund set up. More taxes for ALL.

PG 621 Lines 20-25 Gov’t will define what Quality means in HC. Since when does Gov’t know about quality?

Pg 622 Lines 2-9 To pay for the Quality Standards, Govt will transfer $$ from to other Govt Trust Funds. More Taxes.

PG 624 “Quality” measures shall be designed to assess outcomes & functional status of patients.

PG 624 “Quality” measures shall be designed to profile you including race, age, gender, place of residence, etc

Pg 628 Sec 1443 Gov’t will give “Multi-Stake Holders” Pre-Rule Making input into Selection of “Quality” Measures.

Pg 630 9-24/631 1-9 Those Multi-stake holder groups incl. Unions & groups like ACORN deciding HC quality.

Pg 632 Lines 14-25 The Gov’t may implement any “Quality measure” of HC Services as they see fit.

PG 633 14-25/ 634 1-9 The Secretary may issue non-endorsed “Quality Measures” for Physician Services & Dialysis Services.

Pg 635 to 653 Physicians Payments Sunshine Provision – Gov’t wants to shine sunlight on Docs but not Govt.

Pg 654-659 Public Reporting on Health Care-Associated Infections – Looks okay.

PG 660-671 Doctors in Residency – Gov’t will tell you where your residency will be, thus where you’ll live.

Pg 676-686 Gov’t will regulate hospitals in EVERY aspect of residency programs, incl. teaching hospitals.

Pg 686-700 Increased Funding to Fight Waste, Fraud, and Abuse. You mean like the Gov’t with an $18 million website?

PGs 701-704 Sec 1619 If your part of HC plan isn’t in Gov’t HC Exchange but you qualify for Fed aid, no payment.

PG 705-709 SEC. 1128 If Secr gets complaints (ACORN) on HC provider or supplier, Gov’t can do background check.

PG 711 Lines 8-14 The Secretary has broad powers to deny HC providers/ suppliers admittance into HC Exchange. Your doctor could be thrown out of business.

Pg 719-720 Sec 1637 ANY Doctor who orders durable med equip or home med services MUST be enrolled in Medicare.

PG 722 Sec 1639 Gov’t MANDATES Doctors must have face to face with patient to certify patient for Home Health Svcs.

PG 724 23-25 PG 725 1-5 The same Gov’t certifications will apply to Medicaid & CHIP (your kids)

PG 724 Lines 16-22 Gov’t reserves rt to apply face to face certification for patient to ANY other HC service.

Pg 735 lines 16-25 For law enforce. proposes the Secretary-HHS will give Atty General access to ALL data.

PG 740-757 Gov’t sets guidelines for subsidizing the uninsured (Thats your tax dollars people)

Pg 757-762 Fed gov’t will shift burden of payments to Disproportionate Share Hospitals (DSH) to States. (Taxes)

Pg 763 1-8 No DS/EA hospitals will be paid unless they provide services without regard to national origin

Pg 765 Sec 1711 Gov’t will require Preventative Services including vaccines. (Choice?)

Pg 768 Sec 1713 Gov’t – Nurse Home Visitation Svcs (Hello union paybacks)

Pg 769 11-14 Nurse Home Visit Svcs include-economic self-sufficiency, employ adv, school-readiness.

Pg 769 3-5 Nurse Home Visit Services – “increasing birth intervals between pregnancies.” Govt ABORTIONS anyone

Pg 770 SEC 1714 Fed Gov’t mandates eligibility for State Family Planning Services. Abortion & State Sovereign.

Pg 789-797 Gov’t will set, mandate drug prices, controlling which drugs brought to market. Bye innovation.

Pgs 797-800 SEC. 1744 PAYMENTS for graduate medical education. The government will now control Drs’ education.

PG 801 Sec 1751 The Govt will decide which Health care conditions will be paid. Say RATION!

Pg 810 SEC. 1759. Billing Agents, clearinghouses, etc req. to register. Gov’t takes over private payment sys.

Pg 820-824 Sec 1801 Govt will identify individ. ineligible for subsidies. Will access all personal financial information.

Pg 824-829 SEC. 1802. Govt Sets up Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund. Another tax black hole.

PG 829-833 Gov’t will impose a fee on ALL private health ins. plans incl. self insured to pay for Trust Fund!

PG 835 11-13 fees imposed by Gov’t for Trust Fund shall be treated as if they were taxes.

Pg 838-840 Gov’t will design & implement Home Visitation Program for families with young kids & families expect kids.

PG 844-845 This Home Visitation Prog. includes Gov’t coming into your house & telling you how to parent!!!

Pg 859 Gov’t will establish a Public Health Fund at a cost of $88,800,000,000. Yes that’s Billion.

Pg 865 The Gov’t will MANDATE the establishment of a National Health Service Corps.

PG 865 to 876 The NHS Corps is a program where Drs. perform mandatory HC for 2yrs for part loan repayment.

PG 876-892 The govt takes over the education of our Med students and Drs.

PG 898 The Govt will establish a Public Health Workforce Corps to ensure supply of public health prof.

PG 898 The Public health workforce corps shall consist of civilian employees of the U.S. as Secretary deems.

PG 898 The Public health workforce corps shall consist of officers of Regular & Reserve Corps of Service.

PG 900 The Public Health Workforce Corps includes veterinarians.

PG 901 The Public Health Workforce Corps WILL include commissioned Regular & Reserve Officers. HC Draft?

PG 910 The Govt will develop, build & run Public Health Training Centers.

PG 913-914 Govt starts a HC affirmative action program thru guise of diversity scholarships.

PG 915 SEC. 2251. Govt MANDDATES Cultural & linguistic competency training for HC professionals.

Pg 932 The Govt will estab Preventative & Wellness Trust fund- initial cost of $30,800,000,000-Billion.

PG 935 21-22 Govt will identify specific goals & objectives for prevention & wellness activities. Control YOU!!

PG 936 Govt will develop “Healthy People & National Public Health Perform. Standards” Tell me what to eat?

PG 942 Lines 22-25 More Gov’t? Offices of Surgeon General -Public Health Svc, Minority Health, Women’s Health

PG 950- 980 BIG GOV’T core pub health infrastructure including workforce capacity, lab systems; health info sys, etc

PG 993 Gov’t will establish school based health clinics. Your kids won’t have a chance.

PG 994 School Based Health Clinic will be integrated into the school environment. Say GOVT Brainwash!

PG 1001 The Govt will establish a National Medical Device Registry. Will you be tracked?

Mathew D. Staver*
Founder and Chairman Dean and Professor of Law
Liberty Counsel Liberty University School of Law

Offices in Florida, Virginia and the District of Columbia, Lynchburg, Virginia
(800) 671-1776 – Telephone (434) 592-5300 – Telephone> http://www.LC.org
http://www.law.liberty.edu

[hat tip to John Kornisking]

15 responses to “Obama health care plan summary: Ludicrous!

  1. Two different orgs refute some of the claims made in the above post.

    See 7 Falsehoods and 5 Lies.

    The bill is available at
    http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.txt.pdf.

  2. While this is good, where can one get an online copy of the actual bill?

  3. The law makes sense if you want socialized medicine. I DON’T! I want the power to make my own healthcare decisions, not have the government make them for me. I think that a properly regulated for-profit business will make better decisions than a socialized government.

    • Hmm, you seem to think that government and business are two separate entities. The duopoly continues to deregulate business – so wanting “properly regulated for-profit business” is like wishing for a living wage for minimum wage.

      Gov does the bidding of biz – hence we have one of the worst health care systems in the industrial world. We die younger, we’re sick longer and we pay twice as much for health care as any other industrialized nation.

      That’s what for-profit business brings to America.

      If socialized medicine is good enough for the federal government, it’s good enough for the public.

      You can say you don’t want socialized medicine, but then why do federal employees, and all members of congress get it? If it’s so horrible, why have they provided it to themselves?

      Sure, you can go pay twice as much for poor healthcare based on treating symptoms rather than disease prevention. That’s your right.

      The vast majority of citizens want single payer healthcare which will force the system into improvements – from prevention to alternative therapies not based on toxic, radical chemistry.

      • The employees of the federal government don’t receive “socialized medicine.” If it were “socialized” then, by definition, it would apply to the entire society. The federal employees belong to government backed insurance plans. And, as we all know, some of those are a pretty sweet deal: if every American had the same health coverage that the Congressmen and the President have, we’d be among the healthiest industrialized nations in the world.

        But the problem with delivering that level of care is, of course, cost. I cannot imagine what the premium (taken from taxpayers money) would be to fund such extravagant care.

        No, I think it is more realistic not to look at what the most powerful people in government give themselves, but what they give everyone else. The two largest federal government healthcare programs are Medicare and the Veterans Administration.

        Medicare operates at a much lower cost than probably every private insurer in the country because of its aggressive cost control tactics, which consist mainly of bullying healthcare providers into delivering care at a mere fraction of its market value. Medicare also targets procedures that are perceived as being too expensive (meaning that there are a number of doctors and others performing the procedures, and therefore the gross total is “excessive”) and virtually denying all claims for those procedures by adjusting reimbursement so that the physician’s cost for doing the procedure is greater than the reimbursement. Medicare, at its leisure, can alter any rule it wants to ensure that healthcare providers are not getting paid too much by ensuring that they can’t afford to deliver necessary services to patients.

        The Veterans Administration controls costs in a somewhat different way. There are a limited number of VA hospitals and clinics across the country. The providers at these facilities are generally paid significantly less than they would be paid in the private sector. At the VA hospital nearest my home, for instance, conversation with physical therapists has revealed that they make about 50% annually what they would earn in a private clinic. Consequently, it is difficult to recruit physicians, nurses, therapists, and others to work in the VA system. Furthermore, none of these people is paid any incentive for efficient or high quality work, rather they are paid a straight salary. Combining all these factors results in a system wherein receiving timely care is difficult, and quality of care can vary widely depending upon the level of altruism of the physician, or other provider. And if you are in that system, you are stuck with the providers within the system: you cannot seek a second opinion, because there’s no one else to ask, in many specialties. If you don’t like for your primary care provider (who acts as gatekeeper for any services you want or need), it is no simple task to switch to another one — even more onerous than having to wait for open enrollment with your work’s insurance plan.

        These are the models the government CURRENTLY has in place. Is there any reason to suspect that any new program from the government would depart very far from its established models?

        • I refer you to A Canadian doctor diagnoses U.S. healthcare at https://coto2.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/a-canadian-doctor-diagnoses-u-s-healthcare/ “A single-payer system would eliminate most U.S. coverage problems. Canadian healthcare costs less. Canadians dont need thousands of actuaries to set premiums or thousands of lawyers to deny care. Canadians actually get more of most services. We now live nearly three years longer, and our infant mortality is 20% lower. Single-payer plans can deliver the goods because their funding goes to services, not [insurance] overhead.

          “Canada does have some problems, and all of them the US shares. These problems are largely caused by our shared politico-cultural barriers to quality of care. In 19th century North America, doctors waged a campaign against quacks and snake-oil salesmen and attained a legislative monopoly on medical practice. In return, they promised to set and enforce standards of practice. By and large, it didnt happen. And perverse incentives like fee-for-service make things even worse.”

          • Kenneth C Bagby MD

            Entirely false. In the mid-1990’s I personally interviewed and tried to recruit a young Canadian doctor to come join our group of doctors in Blair, Nebr. He was one of many Canadian doctors who were leaving that country. Why was he leaving? He lived in a large city—-Montreal–and he had a large, capitated practlice. He was allowed a certain sum of money for each patient assigned to his practice. From that , he had to pay for all of the medical expenses and care that he ordered for his patients. If there was anything left in the pot at the end of the year–then that was his salary. That is all that he got. He could not make a living. He could not support hls family. As a result, he and many other Canadian doctors left the country. He did not come to our town, but he did move to Nebraska. We have a number of Canadian Immigrant doctors in our area. One of the elements that limits access to health care is the lack of adequate numbers of physicians!!!!!!!!

            Secondly——I am a charter member of the American Board of Family Practice, which was established 40 years ago. It’s purpose was –and is –to enforce standards of care. To be re-certified by this Board, every 6 years, a member must take, and pass a written test. Every speciality has such boards and requirements. Individual states, hospital medical staffs, and all insurance companies, including medicare, base their licensure requirements and reimbursement policies on the requirements of these specialty boards
            The Quality of our medical schools is outstanding. The University of Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha is a world leader in areas of education and practice–covering the spectrum from Family Practice Doctors education, to organ transplants, to major cancer and cellular research. Standards? You bet they are there and they continue to go higher.
            Thirdly—–Ask any US private physician, or US hospital to estimate how much of their expenses are devoted to the salaries of the many people that they employ just to deal with the many rules, regulations and the mountains of paper work required by the medicare system. Therein lies uncounted BILLIONS of dollars that do not show up on balance sheets as being spent for that purpose. But those expenses are there– They were not there before the medicare program existed—– believe me.

          • But these assertions are refuted by independent sources. The US ranks 37 in medical care. So, our standards, obviously, are not high enough. Apparently “Western medicine” is just not as good as the rest of the world that focuses more on prevention, no GMO foods, and “alternative” therapies.

            Bill Frist, back in 2004, said that nearly 100,000 people die each year from medical errors. How many die from lack of care?

            The insurance industry is a middle-man we don’t need – we don’t need their bureaucracy on top of what Single Payer would create.

            I agree with you to an extent about bureaucracy. We don’t need the gov adding another layer of bureaucracy by maintaining medical records on U.S. citizens – that info is private and remains between the doctor(s) and the patient.

            But whatever paperwork is required of insurance can now be solely required of Single Payer.

            And until we have a Minimum Wage that citizens could actually LIVE ON, you get no sympathy from me about what doctors earn. We need a maximum wage law, and medical care is a damn good place to start.

            btw, I have no problem paying people more who studied longer, or who are more talented or competent. But when I have to choose between food and U.S. medical care, there’s something wrong with the pay scale. The entire system over here is one big gouge.

            How many US doctors actually donate time – give free medical care – every year? Are any of these doctors opposed to Single Payer?

      • Rady,

        so when does personal responsibility take hold – when do we as a nation – stop eating so much fast food – become one of the largest obese nation in the world (which leads to diabetes, high blood pressure and many more PREVENTABLE diseases) and start being responsible for our own health and stop running to the doctor and ER rooms and driving up the costs?

        • Marybeth – Require all genetically modified food be labelled; people will stop eating 70% of all the food now in their grocery stores; diabetes and obesity will drop like lead.

    • Most of these people talking about not wanting SOCIALIZED medicine have no clue what would happen to them if they lost their job. There is no coverage if you’re not part of a big “herd” in a corporate pool, where the many pay for the few… gosh, kinda like socialism there, isn’t it? So why not let the herd become all the citizens of the US, and the many pay a small amount to keep the few sick ones taken care of. Or at least so your mother doesn’t have to choose between eating or her prescriptions, or is that what you mean by you want a choice in deciding your healthcare options?

  4. I’m totally impressed. What a great resource.

    Thanks

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