9/11 Building 7 – Martin Noakes

 

65 responses to “9/11 Building 7 – Martin Noakes

  1. Absolutely great. Left me with goosebumps. Huge believer since the day it happened. Never bought the lies and bs that was spewed on that day or ever since.

    • I agree about the goosebumps – for anybody who has ever written a song – this piece of music has all the elements of a #1 pop hit, and the production, arranging and performances are all first class.

  2. Well put together and very pertinent at this time in light of the other posting which is still receiving quite a lot of cross talk. Some of it very cross.🙂

  3. boomerangcomesback

    Very good song presentation of a particular issue that stands in the face of reason — it is OBVIOUS! Perhaps songs will be written one day of how the Real Villains paid the price for their insane inhumane Acts.

    “The Day Bush Fried, Crying Like a Baby”.
    “Shock & Awe!, Shock & Awe! Shock the Smirking Monkey!”
    “Cheney Dies in Jail, a Lingering Death Pulls Him Down to Hell. S-L-O-W-L-Y and Ohh, Ohh, So P-A-I-N-F-U-L-L-Y, La, La, La, La La”.
    “PNAC Signers Pucker Up at Their Hague Trial, Bang, Bang, Bang Goes the Firing Squad”.
    “The Demons Die One at a Time” — an Iraqi bedtime song.

    Maybe a compilation album will come out…

  4. fantastico… gave me chills too

  5. thank you Mr Noakes. Excellent.
    here comes the problem.
    they are wolves. sheep dogs laid down or flipped to wolves’ side.
    we are sheep. or we would have removed the wolves by now.

    all civil disobedience or prosecutions will do is panic wolves into worse and more false flags or disaster capitalist attrition.
    so what are wise sheep to do?
    what is new here is the pop culture approach.

    check out the date this documentary and poem was produced.

  6. upon further review.
    thank you again martin noakes for further research noted toward end of video.

  7. Awesome and spine-tingling. I hope the US 9/11 BUilding 7 picks this up. Way to go Mr. Noakes! Splendid.

  8. @Joe:
    Please don’t call THEM wolves and US sheep. First off, it denigrates the two species. We are ALL 100% human, as only humans would perpetrate this kind of holocaust on one another. Second, if we are to win the Truth we must serve the Truth with pure courage and fearlessness, not by backdoor pop culture, although that is a good tool. And I am talking non-violent disobedience. Ok, now I am getting to serious. tra…

  9. There’s a real high beam. Read the NIST reports, Marty Baby; no hypothesis claims that any steel melted to cause a collapse. Duh…

  10. Looks like a dark cloud came along to rain on the parade. World, Agent Albury, Agent Albury, world. By the way Marty it was lead, they stored it there plated with gold, good way to hide the fact that China owns it all. If you believe this then can I interest you in some land on the gulf. There isn’t any hypothesis on any of it. NIST is the biggest flight of fantasy of them all and the furthest from the truth. Leaves us all to speculate. Pick your particular poison. By the way Agent, who pays you? You can’t be doing this on your own

  11. Who pays you to post your bunk, verity? Secret gold-plated lead? LOL; priceless.

  12. albury, you have proven a void of credibility repeatedly. please go spread trash elsewhere.

    Rady, thank you for the post. please do us all a favor and delete albury. at least it will cost him the time to come up with a new fake identity.

    Morgana,
    That sounds romantic. Primates commit war and mayhem on their own species. Jane Goodall proved it decades ago. Too many rats in a cage get increasingly violent too. Humans differ by involving greater levels of technology. (see “the corporation” and what services tom watson at a young ibm performed for nazi’s in concentration camps.)

    non-violent disobedience? pure courage and fearlessness? hmm. might want to review antiglobalist protesters. neolibs and neocons are the bane of this planet. intentionally, willfully and quite carefully. they have planned protesters into their systemic corruption. Sure Pinochet got prosecuted for that murderous systemic corruption. Justice delayed is justice denied.

    the best example of a somewhat successful reversal of corruption is naomi klein’s “the take.” and we are not sure how well that worked out.

    Looking over Noakes’ key words to search at the end prompted thoughts on what the globalist cfr neolib/con pnac and all have for goals and what means they have near at hand. so far they seem content with imposing austerity measures, war, pestilence and famine to achieve their goals. katrina, fukushima and other disasters that they fail to respond to set out another plan for impoverishing greater numbers of what the top 0.05% of the economy deem to be useless eaters (aka us).

    next couple months look to be another false flag to cover their trail and intimdate more sheep (as in naomi klein’s “shock doctrine.”) so the question of what wise sheep are to do is not rhetorical. and please do get all serious. perhaps that is where the pure courage and fearlessness comes in.

  13. Thank you, thank you, thank you. This is brilliant; turning a corner of despair back into hope for me!

  14. Just to establish your own credibility, would you like to point out where in any NIST report the melting of steel is given as a reason for a WTC building collapse, Joe?

  15. last chance albury. pointing out impertinent junk hardly improves your credibility.

    regardless of any report, large structures of steel and concrete, especially those buildings do not implode at freefall speeds. the blueprints and design and construction videos were awesome. they were designed to withstand impacts from heavier fully fueled aircraft and performed quite well. such well designed and constructed structures do not and have never collapsed in on themselves at freefall speed. steel and concrete does not crush itself instantaneously. these are the only steel and concrete buildings in history that have ever collapse due to internal fires. much less well constructed buildings have burned much hotter for days and still stood once their fires were out. a few hours of kerosene had little to no effect on those structures. the aircrafts’ impacts obviuosly had minimal effect. as designed the outer structure absorbed and distributed the load beautifully.

    one more obviously intentional, ignorant and distracting comment finishes this conversation. please make an effort to be honest if it does not come naturally.

  16. here you go albury. pick any of these questions jesse richards of tvnewslies.org published recently. perhaps these will help credibility.

    Why did the news agencies report that WTC 7 collapsed almost 1/2 hour before it did, even though it was not hit by a plane, only had a few floors on fire, and gave no indication that it was in any serious danger?
    Why do we still believe the tale of the 19 hijackers when so many of the accused hijackers showed up ALIVE within days? And why do we still believe the fable of the 19 hijackers when the FBI admitted that they are not sure about either the identity of the hijackers or if there were any hijackers at all?
    Why was WTC 7 rebuilt, reopened and reoccupied with no press attention? Wouldn’t this be an important victory in American resolve and perseverance?
    Why were the NORAD rules changed for the first time several weeks prior to 9/11, taking responsibility/authority for shooting down hijacked planes away from NORAD military command for the first time in its history, and given to a civilian, Donald Rumsfeld, and then returned to NORAD the day after 9/11?
    Why would hijackers planning on attacking NY and Washington DC drive from Florida, pass both DC and NY, and drive all the way to Maine and hinge this huge operation on a connecting flight from Maine to Boston, where we are told they hijacked their plane? Why wouldn’t they fly out of any of the airports that are visible from their targets, like Newark, La Guardia or JFK…or even some of the smaller local airports that would have given them a clear easy path to their target and reduce the amount of time that our air defense systems would have to stop them?
    Who placed all of those put options on the airlines just prior to the event, as if they knew that the stock prices on those specific airlines would lose a huge amount of value?
    Why did George W. Bush’s Secret Service detail not rush the president to safety when it was evident that the nation was under attack? If the nation was under attack, and they did not know the scope of the attack, and the president’s location was known, how did they not worry about being attacked in Florida?. Why did they act as if they knew that there was no threat? And why, when our nation was under attack, did the president not rush into action? If you say he was concerned about upsetting the children, you are the ultimate apologist. He could have told them that his mommy was on the phone and he had to see what she wanted. Our county was supposedly being attacked and he/they waited 20 minutes before they moved. This is the smoking gun of smoking guns.
    Why did the FBI never list Osama bin Laden as being wanted for 9/11? Actually, we know this one…because they admitted that they had no evidence linking him to the event.
    Why was their molten metal flowing under the wreckage of the WTC for months? No jet fuel can melt metal, and nothing explainable could melt that much metal and keep it hot enough to remain molten for a month.
    How did a passport of one of the so called hijackers make it through the huge fireball and end up on the street?
    Why have photos from the 80+ cameras confiscated at the Pentagon never been released?
    Why did the airplane that supposedly crashed at Shanksville vaporize so that nothing remained, not bodies, not luggage, not metal, – nothing – for the first time in aviation history? However, we are told that even though the plane vaporized at Shanksville, a hand-written note from a hijacker was found.

  17. Free fall time from 1368′ is ~9.2 seconds, Joe. The South Tower fell in 15+ seconds, and the North Tower took 22+ seconds:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/RKOwens4#p/u/39/qLShZOvxVe4
    Timing a collapse to determine its cause is really, really stupid, but shouldn’t your “researchers” at least have gotten them right?
    Still waiting for the NIST report that cites melting of steel as a factor in any collapse.
    To answer a few of ol’ Jesse’s thoroughly debunked “questions,” please show me some interviews with the live hijackers from the FBI’s September 27, 2001 list, after aliases, confusion over same or similar Arabic names, etc. had been resolved. The FBI admitted in the first few days after the attacks that they weren’t sure about the identity of some of the hijackers, but if they’re still questioning whether there were any hijackers at all, please document that also.
    I’d also like a list of known C/Ds that have left “molten metal flowing” for months, and some of the explosives and incendiaries that burn that long, or for even more than 5 minutes.
    As for GeeDubya, the dope had to be somewhere, and no one was crashing planes into FL schools at the time. The yarn about who had authority to issue a shoot-down order usually involves Cheney, not Rumsfeld, but NORAD brass did not have that discretion prior to 9/11, although they did control the scrambling of the 4 armed planes on standby and within range of NYC and DC. You’d sound a tad brighter if you read Touching History, by Lynn Spencer, or at least looked at the timeline:
    http://cleartheskies.com/timeline.html
    “No-planers” are the bottom of the “truth movement” heap, but please read and learn, as painful as it may be:

    http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pentagonflight77evidencesummary
    (2 pages-follow link)
    http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/flight93page1
    (3 pages-follow links)

    Were American and United Airlines in on the plot too, along with the FAA, NTSB, and thousands of civilian eyewitnesses?

  18. The jet fuel got so hot that the structure weakened and collapsed. But such intense heat that could compromise steel girders would be dissipated throughout the massive heat sink of the interconnected metal, and then we would see deformation of the steel – it is simply incomprehensible that the steel at ground level would snap off at 45 degree angles, with sulfidized material present – Look at the metal in the following pics, which clearly shows evidence of shaped charges used to cut the steel girders:

    Shaped Charges and the World Trade Center Collapses
    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wtc_charges.html

  19. Joe, Very well put my friend. Should be enough to keep him busy for a while.
    I also would like to add as well that Tower 7 was on fire despite not being hit. It too collapsed in freefall despite there being only minimal office fires. The decision to ‘pull’ (whatever your interpretation of this WORD ‘Pull’ is is irrelevant to the particular point I am making here) was I think more to cover up evidence of a prepared demo op. Why else would some of the finest fire crews in the USA back away from an office fire? Or were they ordered to back away? By Who?

    Also the fact that this decision and subsequent collapse occured as it did is further proof that there was an uncertainty about exactly which towers were going to be hit and how they would come down. I still disbelieve the final reports findings. These buildings were designed to withstand extreme impacts. Two passenger jets would not have had enough impact to bring them down the way they did. They would have toppled over at the very least if the fires had any impact whatsoever. They didn’t is evidenced by the film footage shot by many from numerous angles.
    The reports that prior knowledge of the terrorist attacks was imminent and that the whole cover up suggests that there is at the very least grounds for reopening this investigation and this time involving the experts and witnesses who were noticeable by their abscence at the original hearings.

  20. go cz.
    thank you for the link.
    am on it already.
    genius and profoundly helpful.
    j
    ps. please stop wasting time with whatshisname. 911 as an inside job is already established. arguing it further only assumes the party argued with is honest and open to facts. it also assumes that there are facts worthy of raising questions about the conclusion instead of moving forward.

    ironic as one listens to the next generation of kids (way more media savvy than we credit them for) it is so obvious to them without all the research we did. they are not naive enough to believe wild single-bullet-theories that explain nothing except that the person they are listening to is not capable of addressing facts with them. so it looks like we will have another generation of sealed and classified files on another in our face event. now the emphasis for this generation of kids (and hopefully us) is to avoid another false flag or at least being the direct victims of another false flag.

  21. some friends under 20 a few years ago sent around an email with videos of about 20 buildings controlled demolition, 15 or 20 buildings collapse due to other reasons (mostly geology) and 15 or so buildings with raging fires. similar to lawson’s orange only longer and no commentary. all the large steel structures stood unbent inspite of fires raging much hotter over many more floors out of control for far longer. a couple went for days. always at least he skeleton shell remained. unbent. the controled demos were all as lawson showed. all of the uncontrolled collapses were assymetrical. as in a huge mess as the buildings took out other structures surrounding. much like huge dying old trees taking out surrounding younger trees in the woods when they finally go. none of them comllapsed inward on themselves.

    so yeh what i learned from the youngsters is it is much easier (and more pertinent and more accurate) to deal with punks by offering to explain nothing. speculate nothing. only observe facts and request explanations.

    mentioned it on tarpley’s 46 post but not here yet. anyone seen anything of mike ruppert’s books? he is pretty factual and comprehensive. almost ocd on the matter. “crossing the rubicon”

  22. btw cz,
    jet fuel is kerosene. ever seen a kerosene lamp, stove or oven?

  23. I was only being facetious about the jet fuel getting that hot – yes, I realize that such a fire by its nature can only get so hot, and its nowhere near hot enough to turn steel into flowing rivers like molten lava – else our BBQ’s would (collapse) just like the towers.

  24. Did you ever get a proper explanation of the 200+ Israelis that were arrested in connection with 9/11 – or perhaps the search results below on Google means it is entirely something in our heads.

    “200 israelis arrested for 9/11”

    Advanced search
    About 20,700,000 results (0.11 seconds)

  25. Just for fun, try doing a Google search like:

    “200 South Africans arrested for 9/11”
    or
    “200 Chinese arrested for 9/11”

    yet Albury the liar says it is just something “Roggie” made up

    Ok, Maybe this one will get more results

    “200 New Zealanders arrested for 9/11”

  26. alright cz. my autistic side coming through again. guess i am not so good at reading facial expressions nor hearing obvious sarcasm. yeh well.

    the google hits almost make me wish i were a lawyer with cheap access to lexis nexis.

    just for grins anyone remember watching farhenheit 911 and all the obvious connections the guilty-conscienced-catholic-school-boy, micheal moore put out there?

    funny how long and how well the western oligarchs have papered over the long deep connections between israel and the saudi’s. (and of course the u.s.)

  27. My comment from yesterday is still awaiting moderation, so I altered the links somewhat:

    Free fall time from 1368′ is ~9.2 seconds, Joe. The South Tower fell in 15+ seconds, and the North Tower took 22+ seconds:
    youtube.com/user/RKOwens4#p/u/39/qLShZOvxVe4
    Timing a collapse to determine its cause is really, really stupid, but shouldn’t your “researchers” at least have gotten them right?
    Still waiting for the NIST report that cites melting of steel as a factor in any collapse.
    To answer a few of ol’ Jesse’s thoroughly debunked “questions,” please show me some interviews with the live hijackers from the FBI’s September 27, 2001 list, after aliases, confusion over same or similar Arabic names, etc. had been resolved. The FBI admitted in the first few days after the attacks that they weren’t sure about the identity of some of the hijackers, but if they’re still questioning whether there were any hijackers at all, please document that also.
    I’d also like a list of known C/Ds that have left “molten metal flowing” for months, and some of the explosives and incendiaries that burn that long, or for even more than 5 minutes.
    As for GeeDubya, the dope had to be somewhere, and no one was crashing planes into FL schools at the time. The yarn about who had authority to issue a shoot-down order usually involves Cheney, not Rumsfeld, but NORAD brass did not have that discretion prior to 9/11, although they did control the scrambling of the 4 armed planes on standby and within range of NYC and DC. You’d sound a tad brighter if you read Touching History, by Lynn Spencer, or at least looked at the timeline:
    cleartheskies.com/timeline.html
    “No-planers” are the bottom of the “truth movement” heap, but please read and learn, as painful as it may be:

    sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pentagonflight77evidencesummary
    (2 pages-follow link)
    sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/flight93page1
    (3 pages-follow links)

    Were American and United Airlines in on the plot too, along with the FAA, NTSB, and thousands of civilian eyewitnesses?

  28. boomerangcomesback

    Ho Hum, Blech…ptooie!

    Shrill Shill, you are like an Amway salesman that won’t go away (no offense to Amway folks). You are a zealot for the most reprehensible creatures, and you carry their water like a journeyman urinal stooge. There is no explanation for YOU! Do you realize THAT?

    We all know you have a bazillion questions. No one cares. Your “logic box” is missing. Your conclusions are as pissing on a fire, driving everyone to a safe distance from the stench. Just because your face is invisible on the net, doesn’t mean you must continue to act like an imbecile flogging his dead ass…

    As Joe recommended above, my defense against your ridiculous game of subterfuge, outright lies, deception, and pig-headedness is — Not to Play Your Game. You deserve no one’s attention nor time. You are a Black Hole for the Truth.

  29. Maybe you could help Joe find a mention by NIST of melting steel as a factor in any of their WTC collapse hypotheses, boomie. I’m sure you both spent a lot of time studying their reports.

  30. Why do you suppose that the semi-moron singing that dreadful nonsense said “open fires can’t melt steel,” roggie, if not referencing NIST, who never claimed that steel melted to cause a collapse? It appears that someone “gives a sh*t.”

  31. boomerangcomesback

    Well, there you go Rogue! This Smith character is unflappable, stuck on droid fast forward. He wants to talk metallurgy and malarkey in the same briny breath. Molten steel? Yeah, we saw plenty of it pouring out of the sides of WTC 1 & 2 prior to their explosions/implosions. Saw plenty of photos of heavy machinery digging it up from under the ground weeks even months afterwards. Saw infrared “heat” photos pointing out extreme hotspots underneath the rubble many weeks and months after the FF’s. Surely Alburley, you don’t advocate those kerosene and office trash fires as “evidence” causing the weakening, the melting, the “simultaneous” failure and collapse of structural grade steel and more, to set a 1 day record of multiple steel building collapses by fire (trying to compare WTC 7 with 1 & 2 causes is nincompooperation squared)? Tons of molten steel pouring out of the buildings? Yeah, it was aluminum. Maybe lead. Maybe pencil lead. Ha Ha Ha! I laugh in derision at your mental claustrophobia. Apoplexy to you as you huff and you puff, and attempt to pump up the NIST Hindenberg into a bigger dirigible of Hot Air than it is as a flippin paper weight of pork. Why keep trying to sell lies to Truth Seekers? I don’t get it?

  32. It’s scary that anyone could be that stupid, boomie. There were very minor fires on the impact sides of both towers, because the planes pushed the combustibles away from them. The hottest fires in WTC 1 were on the south side:

    not where Edna Cintron was standing.
    Your “tons of molten steel” coming from the NE corner of WTC 2 was right where UA 175’s fuselage wound up, and was obviously not from the columns or joists in that area because it didn’t cause the collapse, which started when the SE corner lost support and the top tilted that way. Seriously, do you ever THINK?

  33. boomerangcomesback

    Smith. You’re the stupid non-thinker. The “entirety” of the guv-approved “story” you salute and attempt to support is laughable! IT is a laughingstock! NIST is a laughingstock! YOU are a laughingstock. You insult many, many thoughtful intellects when you attempt to belittle truth-seekers and undermine critical thinking with your rabbit hole delusions.

    It is scary that anyone could be so blockheaded. But that’s your point perhaps. Any response, from anybody, is a victory to you. Very bizarre. Very weird.

  34. “They” must have just loaded up the WTC area with liars on 9/11:
    http://sites.google.com/site/911stories/accountsoftowerstructuralinstabilityande
    As we know, soaking a few floors of a hi-rise with ~9000 gallons of flaming jet fuel is no way to start major fires.

  35. boomerangcomesback

    “Hey, those desks, papers, plastics, and carpet got pushed into a corner of the WTC by the plane!” “Voila! Hotter fires.” “The tons of molten metal weren’t over there, they were over here”. “Created by office trash and 9000 gallons of jet fuel”.

    Yep, melted those Big Beams into jellified molten metal, pouring out of the tower in liquid form. Caused the entire rigid structure to pancake into it’s footprint. Just like that other building. Yeah! Just like that No.7 building too. Small fires…but real HOT too. Amazing what fire can do!

    In FuzzyLand it is helpful, no imperative, to conveniently forget about all the other amazing inconsistencies of the 9/11 “Myth” story. There are thousands, maybe 10s & 100s of thousands of inconsistencies, of telltale dots that only require drawing a line from one to another to form a picture at total odds with the fantasy of the “Myth”. A stark and complete refusal to draw simple lines to simple dots to reach conclusions that destroy the entire “Myth” reveals an individual’s refusal to learn from new information. Or, an Agenda. Or both. It actually does not matter, for individuals such as this “cannot” learn and “refuse” to learn. As Rogue points out, 1+1 = 6 to these creatures. Nothing, absolutely Nothing can be built upon such a twisted foundation of agendized blockheadedness.

    With that out of the way, other folks might like to take in additional information about pre/post 9/11 financial shenanigans. It should surely cross the minds of even children, that those bad, brown folks with boxcutters did not possess the acumen nor facilities to pull off high-end financial fraud “before” the events of 9/11, during, and after…

  36. Oddly enough, the towers became visibly unstable for a half hour or more right where the “minor” fires were, and the witnesses didn’t notice any of those fireproof explosives going off. Jet fuel-based, delayed-action, top secret explosives were cleverly used to blow off elevator doors, damage lobbies, and burn people, a new method of demolishing hi-rises that only the 9/11 “truth movement’s” aware of.
    Better yet, this is “no inferno”:

    and the best way to judge the fires is with photos of places where they weren’t, or where there were only minor ones. To conclude, fireproofing of steel is unnecessary because it acts as a “heat sink,” no matter how light it is, so building codes requiring it are all wrong.
    You guys rock.

    • “Hear me people. We know who you are and we know who we are. We see you lie and we see you murder. We see. You are going down. It may not be today and it may not be tomorrow but you are going down. And you… all of you who know and who abet and serve the empire of darkness; all of you who have sold your honor and integrity for a place at the table, for the opportunity to run your mouths about banal tripe and be a hearty-fellow-well-met among the psychopaths, who lurk like jackals among the lions, who are complicit in this evil… you will be shamed beyond endurance for having been such a whore and a fool for table scraps at the cost of your humanity.”
      les visible

  37. boomerangcomesback

    Dick Cheney admits over the weekend HE gave the order for Flt.93 to be “shot down”. “Didn’t give it much thought…”; he was busy with other things. I BET! http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=214851

    He was busy earlier, making sure the Pentagon WAS struck by whatever incoming was on course on it’s “mission” {hit the ONI computer servers and investigative staff}. More will continue to float to the surface about this FF…exposing the MONSTROUS LIES. Can we ascertain at this juncture if Cheney is a creature of the DARK or LIGHT? Easy question…

  38. Steel-framed hi-rises are constructed of “massive amounts of interconnected steel,” boomie, and it all requires fireproofing. The non-core tower floors were framed with bar joists, not beams, and they had no steel larger than 3″ X 3″ X 1/4″ angle.
    Here’s more “smolder” for you:

    http://www.911myths.com/html/black_smoke.html
    Oil well fires just “smolder” too.

  39. Your strating to sound like a gramaphone record stuck in the groove buddy boy. So why don’t you quit repeating yourself. We heard you the first time and chose then to ignore your propaganda. How many more hints do you need before you get the message and/or a new needle?

  40. That comment above was directed at Albunny by the way. This site is starting to throw wobblies and instead of allowing comments to be posted as replies next to the post it relates to it throws them anywhere by the look of it.

  41. PRIOR TO 9/11, NO STEEL-FRAMED HI-RISE HAD EVER BEEN HIT BY A 767!

  42. “Israeli-US-Saudi-Pakistani ”

    Show us how we got Israel to attack us. This ought to be funny.


  43. Bill Maher was inspirational, roggie, after being harassed by trolls and shills and collaborators.
    .

  44. ‘How do we know Bush wasn’t behind September 11th? Because it worked, and it involved planning.’ Bill Maher

  45. Which of those people associated with the 9/11 Commission Report believe that 9/11 was not an al Qaeda suicide attack carried out by 19 Arab terrorists, roggie, that the WTC hi-rises were brought down with explosives, the planes were faked, etc.?

  46. You can only use 9/11 Commission members’ statements to support your claims by misrepresenting them, roggie, which is exactly what you’re doing. Not one of them has questioned whether it was an al Qaeda suicide attack, whether the planes were faked, explosives collapsed the towers, or any of the other bunk you’re spewing.

  47. Please quote some of the members who’ve questioned whether 9/11 was another al Qaeda suicide attack, roggie, and whether it was done with 4 hijacked planes and no explosives. Some of them did have criticisms of the investigation, and since you’re so keenly interested in the truth, you should explain what it was that concerned them.

  48. What new high-tech fighter planes and other advanced weaponry advocated in the PNAC’s “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” did the US get because of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, roggie?

  49. Mmmmm, so Larry Silverstein, the FDNY, Rumsfeld, Myers, the PNAC, GeeDubya, Deadeye, the FAA, NTSB, two major airlines, NIST, FEMA, etc. needed to collapse some buildings and murder nearly 3000 people in order to waste hundreds of billions in mid-east hellholes so that better UAVs could be developed. Got it.

  50. Do Silverstein and the FDNY want unmanned drones, roggie, or did they blow up an SEC office because it had an “asbestos problem,” and they needed to invade Afghanistan for all of that oil we’ve been getting from them? I really am trying to understand.

  51. Please answer the question.

  52. I’m simply looking for a plausible perp and a coherent motive, roggie. My bad…

  53. That’s why I’m counting on you, roggie.

  54. To anyone but roggie:
    Do Silverstein and the FDNY want unmanned drones, or did they blow up an SEC office because it had an “asbestos problem,” and they needed to invade Afghanistan for all of that oil we’ve been getting from them?

  55. djya see iran’s got a nuke on grid now?
    and binni’s got 5% of his population sitting in on Rothchild place in protest of austerity for the poor in Israel?
    wonder how he is going to keep domestic dissent in check.
    going to need more war to keep his war machine’s head above the rising tide of public dissapproval.

    even without hurricanes, earthquakes, solar flares,….. whatever – these disaster capitalist (petro/military/industrial) top 0.1% of the economy are going to need to manufacture either a string of katrina’s or a global katrina to keep from losing all credibility and what is left of the cooperative segment of the sheep.

  56. ww,
    no fear. no hope. only be.
    where to be? how to be? when to be?
    rockefellers and rothchilds financed these killing fields our ancestors slipped through. they are financing the ones we need to slip through.
    paul atriedes might have been prescient.
    well informed guesses are a long way from prescient.
    peace and thank you for the help so far.
    j

  57. cz,
    apologies for the slow eyes.
    thought you were ww.
    no worries. intents were the same.
    j

  58. Have you guys (except roggie, whom I can’t address) solved this one yet?

  59. The Coast Guard stood down that day, boomie. It was obviously a false flag op and da’ Joos did it. Prolly used some secret explosives too, and they hid all of the evidence at the bottom of the Atlantic.
    Wake up and smell the illuminati.

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